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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby rcaffin » Thu 14 Oct, 2021 8:57 am

We (my wife & I) have been up Fedder a couple of times. Once via the Geeves Corner or yellow route ( eggs Tue 15 Dec, 2015 10:27 am ) and once from the Southern Traverse via the red route. Can't say we had any problems with either one, but we we rather young then (Uni) and had a rope each time. The Southern Traverse was very good value, coming from Goon Moor to Bechervaise.

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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby Tortoise » Thu 14 Oct, 2021 10:18 pm

Moondog55 wrote:So a couple of questions about balance training.
Are you riding a bike?
What about rollerblades/skateboard or balance beam?

Secondly as I've not read every post; have you tried indoor rock climbing at all? A few sessions in a rock gym with a harness and a belay partner might help, concentrate on the climb and not the exposures and it may be a little easier.

Hi MD.
1. Not riding a bike now that I live near the top of a decent hill. Gave away roller-blading a few years ago as a risk management step. Injuries take longer to heal these days. I do practice walking on anything I find that resembles a balance beam. And I do one-legged squats, practice the odd yoga pose etc. It helps a bit when I remember to use my core, but I haven't made a lot of progress in terms of noticeable improvement in balance. Can't hurt to keep doing those things, though.

2. I've done a bit of indoor climbing, but much prefer outdoor. I don't know why they make smooth holds instead of nice grippy ones! The arthritis in my hands, and a shoulder injury that's taking a long time to heal means I need to conserve my bits and pieces for real life scrambling. Never been scared on an indoor climb.

I should mention that after working on my fear of heights for a year (a few years ago now), I did Anne again (loved it, and didn't need a hand lowering self down at the tricky bit). And I did the Notch again, this time descending. Our group had a rope set up, but I preferred to climb down without it. Relaxation techniques, a bit of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy and another climbing lesson (thanks Osik!) increased my focus and confidence a lot. As did our Geryon South trip.

We did go in via the Eastern Arthurs 5 years ago, but turned around not far up the direct ascent because of the amount of water coming down. Thrilled to have been there, lots of great memories. This time it'll be via Farmhouse Creek, the only option open at the moment.

I think the key points for me are:'

- Just focus on what I need to do. The rock climbing lessons helped a lot with that.
- Remind self that I have the skills I need to do it.
- Use relaxation techniques if I need them. (Slow breathing, longer out than in, intentionally relaxing muscles, etc)
- "Guys can often get away with reach and brute force. Small women often need better technique." Can't remember whom I'm paraphrasing there, but it gave me the mental shift I needed.
- It won't be a failure if I don't make it to the summit.

22 sleeps to go. Depending on the weather, etc, etc, etc, etc. :)
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby Tortoise » Thu 14 Oct, 2021 10:25 pm

rcaffin wrote:We (my wife & I) have been up Fedder a couple of times. Once via the Geeves Corner or yellow route ( eggs Tue 15 Dec, 2015 10:27 am ) and once from the Southern Traverse via the red route. Can't say we had any problems with either one, but we we rather young then (Uni) and had a rope each time. The Southern Traverse was very good value, coming from Goon Moor to Bechervaise.

Cheers
Roger

Hi Roger,

Can't say I'm rather young by any stretch of the imagination. I reckon the window of opportunity is not enormous for me, as gripping things is getting harder and more painful. I quite enjoyed the Southern Traverse, but we only had day packs, and didn't do the half to Bechervaise. Which is probably the most scary?

Anyhoo, we'll definitely stick to the red route and see how we go. Some of the party will have no trouble summiting. At least 2 of us may stop short and enjoy (?) the view. :)
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Fri 15 Oct, 2021 5:53 am

Good luck with it tortoise.

Did you have any issues booking? I hear it's hard to get a spot already.
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby Tortoise » Fri 15 Oct, 2021 8:17 am

Thanks, ILUV. It's a club walk, and the leader got in early. :)

Btw I do wonder if any of the southern folks coming (that I haven't met yet) might be forum members.
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby beardless » Fri 15 Oct, 2021 8:45 am

Tortoise wrote:Hey Beardless, sorry I missed your reply for a few years. Very slowly sounds like my approach. Good to hear that the photos/videos are more scary!

I'm reviving the thread with 26 sleeps to go till the next trip for a potential shot at Fedder. Yay! Eek!


Exciting. Sounds like you have trained your body and mind for the climb. I hope you get good weather for it. And if you don't the mountain is not going away.
As for views. They are great from the top. But in some ways compared to the rest of the Eastern Arthurs it feels like something is missing. That's because you can't see Federation Peak because you are standing on top. All the best
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby Tortoise » Fri 15 Oct, 2021 12:02 pm

Hi Beardless,
Good point about the views!
Thanks for the encouragement. :)
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby Mechanic-AL » Fri 15 Oct, 2021 12:29 pm

I can just imagine the headlines when you make it....

" TORTOISE FOUND ON SUMMIT OF FEDERATION PEAK !" :shock: :shock:

Sounds like youve done everything in your power to make this happen so I hope you have a great time out there......summit or no summit.

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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby Tortoise » Fri 15 Oct, 2021 12:37 pm

:lol: You're funny, Al. I did think I might be one of the first tortoises make it if I do so. :D
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby rcaffin » Wed 20 Oct, 2021 7:15 pm

Hi Tortoise

Which half of the Southern Traverse was the most scary?
Um, well, good question. Bear in mind it was a LONG time ago, and that we (party of 6 walkers cum rock climbers) were rather young at the time. So ... can't remember.

I think we did the 4th complete traverse of the full Arthur ranges (E+W), and the 10 traverse of the Eastern Arthurs. I was the leader, and we were all from the MUMC. We navigated off a tiny sketch map from the Tassie Tramp mag iirc. And yes, we carried full climbing gear as well.

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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby Tortoise » Wed 20 Oct, 2021 7:46 pm

Hi Roger. It would have been amazing to have done it in the olden days! Still, I'm grateful that I got to visit most of the Arthurs before too many hordes arrived. Challenging enough for me with great maps and tracks. :wink: Well...there's still mud, vertical obstacle courses, 3D mazes etc.
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby rcaffin » Thu 21 Oct, 2021 6:41 am

Yeah, well, it was fun.
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Top Left: above one of the WA lakes. The girl is (now) my wife.
TR: abseiling off something on the WA, again my wife. Full climbing ropes. You can bypass the abseil.
BR: above one of the WA Lakes, again my wife, Mountain Mule pack
BL: Goon Moor in 'normal' weather. My tent was an MYOG dome 7'x7', and fine. The other tent was a Golden Japara Paddy, and it leaked a bit in heavy rain. The patched backside - he slid down something too fast.

I do have a pic of the jump in the middle of the Maze of Beggary, with my wife fully airborne. Is it still jumped?

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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby norts » Thu 21 Oct, 2021 8:09 am

You now skirt round that area where the jump was Roger.
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby rcaffin » Thu 21 Oct, 2021 8:26 am

Ah, no fun!
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Re: Overcoming a fear of heights for Federation Peak

Postby north-north-west » Thu 21 Oct, 2021 9:44 am

Lovers Leap has been bypassed for yonks, although there is still a trace of the pad leading to it.
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